Masonic Forum Home Search Members Calendar Who's On Welcome Guest ( Login | Register ) Recent PostsRecent Posts Popular TopicsPopular Topics Home » General » The Appendant Degrees and Orders » Masonic degrees 12 posts, Page 1 of 212»» Masonic degrees Rate Topic Display Mode Topic Options Author Message BroPhilBroPhil Posted 13/11/2009 13:03 Apprentice Group: Forum Members Last Login: 23/07/2010 12:53 Posts: 52, Visits: 219 Afternoon All, I have started to get the bit between my teeth whilst looking through the appendant orders and wonder if anyone knows the answer tot his question. We are told (vaguely) that there are 33 degrees in freemasonry but have (and perhaps shouldn't have) any knowledge of what these degrees are and how they are conferred. Are they for instance linked to the appendant orders or are they administrated in some other manner? Anyone? S&F Bro. Phil Saunders WM Elect, Northolt Lodge No 6565 3rd Principal, Thames Mariner Chapter No 8628 MMM, Weyland Lodge No 1305 Post #14982 sojournersojourner Posted 13/11/2009 13:22 Fellow Group: Forum Members Last Login: Today @ 15:12 Posts: 363, Visits: 1,513 It rather depends on which degree you look at. Going back to the formation of UGLE, the Duke of Sussex declared that pure an ancient Masonry would consist of the first three degrees, including HRA, only. The other degrees were "disowned" by the new Grand Lodge, many of which had been worked under the "Antients" system. These degrees refused to go away however and were continued to be worked. In 1856 The Grand Mark Lodge of England and Wales (and at the time, its colonies and dependencies of the British Crown). It is this Grand Lodge that administers to (not rules over) most (but not all) of the side degrees, including KT's and the allied degrees. There are also Grand Colleges, and Priories, etc. That is a very potted and sketchy summation. but it depends which one in particular you are interested in. Can I recommend a good explanetary book, entitled "Beyond the Craft" by Keith B Jackson. ISBN 0-85318-207-8. Roy L."SELUME PROFERRE" Post #14984 BroPhilBroPhil Posted 13/11/2009 13:24 Apprentice Group: Forum Members Last Login: 23/07/2010 12:53 Posts: 52, Visits: 219 Thanks Roy. In fact I was reading the book you mention at the time I have now realised ( I think) that these "degrees" form a part of the Rose Croix? Would that be right? Bro. Phil Saunders WM Elect, Northolt Lodge No 6565 3rd Principal, Thames Mariner Chapter No 8628 MMM, Weyland Lodge No 1305 Post #14985 bodbod Posted 13/11/2009 13:43 Fellow Group: Forum Members Last Login: 26/07/2010 00:18 Posts: 302, Visits: 566 18th - 33rd is Rose Croix aka AASR, etc Post #14988 BroPhilBroPhil Posted 13/11/2009 13:54 Apprentice Group: Forum Members Last Login: 23/07/2010 12:53 Posts: 52, Visits: 219 thanks Bod - in that case where do the 4th - 17th fit in? Bro. Phil Saunders WM Elect, Northolt Lodge No 6565 3rd Principal, Thames Mariner Chapter No 8628 MMM, Weyland Lodge No 1305 Post #14989 Simon EvansSimon Evans Posted 13/11/2009 14:11 Apprentice Group: Forum Members Last Login: Today @ 13:01 Posts: 56, Visits: 555 As far as the "Rose Croix" goes, degrees 1-3 are not worked in RC(as the craft degrees 1-3 are worked in the craft instead). 4-17 are "confered" on a candidate prior to being given the 18th degree in full. So these degrees are never worked in private Rose Croix Chapters. However, demonstrations of the full ceremonies are carried out annually. Next year the 13th is being demonstrated. Simon Evans LGR Craft,HRA, Mark, RAM, R&SM, KT, St Thomas of Acon, Rose Croix, Red Cross of Constantine, Royal Order of Scotland. Post #14990 BroPhilBroPhil Posted 13/11/2009 14:17 Apprentice Group: Forum Members Last Login: 23/07/2010 12:53 Posts: 52, Visits: 219 Ah I see - thanks Simon S&F Bro. Phil Saunders WM Elect, Northolt Lodge No 6565 3rd Principal, Thames Mariner Chapter No 8628 MMM, Weyland Lodge No 1305 Post #14991 johndeejohndee Posted 13/11/2009 15:09 Apprentice Group: Forum Members Last Login: 15/06/2010 05:34 Posts: 67, Visits: 270 Here is some useful information:There are about 110 to choose from, with a further 15 additional sets of ‘secrets’ conferred on being admitted to the chair of some of them! .... "http://www.freemasonrytoday.com/06/p09.php Post #14992 sojournersojourner Posted 13/11/2009 15:31 Fellow Group: Forum Members Last Login: Today @ 15:12 Posts: 363, Visits: 1,513 To try and reduce confusion. The 4th to the 17th degrees referred to are those under the AASR only. There are a number of other degrees, from the Allied degrees, Secret Monitor, Red Cross of Constantine, St. Thomas of Acon etc., which are outside the AASR. In some Scottish Craft Lodges, the Mark is sometimes referred to as "the fourth degree".Rather than go into too much detail in the open, if you have a specific enquiry, I'd be happy to try and answer it by PM. I went into Rose Croix (4th to 18th) last Monday. I am also a PM in Craft, 3rd Principal in Royal Arch, Preceptor/Prior in KT's, WM of an English Mark Lodge, Comp. in Cryptic and my wife tells me she wants the hall stairs and land decorated by Christmas. Roy L."SELUME PROFERRE" Post #14997 BroPhilBroPhil Posted 13/11/2009 15:54 Apprentice Group: Forum Members Last Login: 23/07/2010 12:53 Posts: 52, Visits: 219 haha. many thanks. I don't have any specific questions at the moment. I plan on completing craft and chapter before I do anything else but was getting frustrated at how difficult it is to just research into this area I think my wife would be somewhat perturbed if I joined anything else right now (to put it mildly ) Bro. 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Can I recommend a good explanetary book, entitled "Beyond the Craft" by Keith B Jackson. ISBN 0-85318-207-8.
"SELUME PROFERRE"
There are about 110 to choose from, with a further 15 additional sets of ‘secrets’ conferred on being admitted to the chair of some of them! .... "http://www.freemasonrytoday.com/06/p09.php
Rather than go into too much detail in the open, if you have a specific enquiry, I'd be happy to try and answer it by PM. I went into Rose Croix (4th to 18th) last Monday. I am also a PM in Craft, 3rd Principal in Royal Arch, Preceptor/Prior in KT's, WM of an English Mark Lodge, Comp. in Cryptic and my wife tells me she wants the hall stairs and land decorated by Christmas.
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