Masonic Forum Home Search Members Calendar Who's On Welcome Guest ( Login | Register ) Recent PostsRecent Posts Popular TopicsPopular Topics Home » General » Feminine & Co-Masonry » Dramatic Turn of Events for Co-Masonry in... 17 posts, Page 2 of 2««12 Dramatic Turn of Events for Co-Masonry in... Rate Topic Display Mode Topic Options Author Message johndeejohndee Posted 29/11/2009 18:14 Apprentice Group: Forum Members Last Login: 15/06/2010 05:34 Posts: 67, Visits: 270 November 29, 2009 - Grand Orient: No Mixed Masonry This Year The Council of the Order of the Grand Orient de France (GODF) decided to defer to the next annual convent (general assembly) the new vote on the mixing of the lodges [by sex], according to the Grand Master, Pierre Lambicchi. The vote of the preceding convent of the Masonic obedience, which had refused the mixing of the lodges last September 4, was annulled by the Chamber of Justice of the Grand Orient de France because of a question of form. The heading of the question had been modified without the agreement of the "Committee of Proposals and Regulations."The convent, which brought together the delegates of the 1,200 lodges of the GODF, voted 56% against the mixing of the lodges. The question was whether to allow lodges the freedom to initiate women or to affiliate "sisters" of other obediences. Two lodges appealed to the Supreme Chamber of Masonic Justice and the vote of the convent was annulled. The Council of the Order on Sunday met to decide whether it was necessary to convene an extraordinary convent or to wait for the "normal" convent next September to revote on the mixing of the lodges.The question of the mixing of the lodges has been posed for several years. Two years ago, the majority of the representatives of the lodges decided not to bring the issue to a vote; a year ago, they decided to let the lodges reflect on the issue for a year and to vote in 2009. And at the last convent, the vote was 56% against mixing.The preceding Grand Master, Jean-Michel Quillardet, was openly favorable to mixing. The present Grand Master, Pierre Lambicchi, thinks that the majority of lodges are opposed to mixing, and advocates rather for a federation of obediences joining together the masculine, feminine and mixed branches. Post #15984 Brother_TJBrother_TJ Posted 02/12/2009 21:33 Journeyman Group: Forum Members Last Login: 26/07/2010 22:59 Posts: 168, Visits: 206 Lauderdale (21/11/2009)GOdF, in one of who's Lodges I have sat, is interesting in that whilst (at present) it does not Initate female Candidates it will accept them as visitors to its Lodges. Myself, Bro Cora and another female Brother in LDH were received as guests by Loge Hiram a couple of years ago now.I am still slightly puzzled as to the exact effect of the Legal Ruling posted , but I am not a Lawyer. I await the outcome of this matter with great interest.It is very puzzling isn't it Brother. They accept Atheists though but not women, very interesting. I call it Obscure Landmarks.Accept me as a visitor is fine by me. .·.·.·.·.·.·.·.·.·.·.·.Amethyst Lodge No. 2, Orient of Tulsa, Oklahoma and Isis Lodge No. 3, Orient of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma...A.F.H.R. Post #16186 lauderdalelauderdale Posted 03/12/2009 04:02 Excellent Master Group: Forum Members Last Login: 04/07/2010 12:56 Posts: 2,238, Visits: 4,269 I await further developments with interest. Post #16197 Cora BCora B Posted 03/12/2009 13:07 Fellow Group: Forum Members Last Login: Today @ 12:16 Posts: 389, Visits: 887 Brother_TJ (02/12/2009)It is very puzzling isn't it Brother. They accept Atheists though but not women, very interesting. I call it Obscure Landmarks.Different ballpark Bro:. TJ.In France there is such a thing as laicite - a term difficult to translate, but akin to secularism underpinned by constitutional separation of state and church. In France, one has absolute freedom of conscience, i.e. you can believe (or not) whatever you want (or don't); just practise it in private.It would be completely inappropriate to make disclosure of one's beliefs obligatory.Of course, one's gender is rather, erm, obvious. In most cases.S&F, Cora -- International Order of Co-Freemasonry "Le Droit Humain", British Federation Lodge Light of Amen-Ra No. 717, Orient of Surbiton Lodge St Francis No. 817, Orient of Camberley Mark Lodge Nephthys No. 32, Quarries of Surbiton HRA Triangle The Hidden Glory, Vault of Surbiton Post #16212 Alan CampbellAlan Campbell Posted 30/12/2009 16:49 Past Master Group: Forum Members Last Login: 22/07/2010 19:44 Posts: 1,089, Visits: 1,323 Unless of course you are in down town Bangcock. Post #16849 sojournersojourner Posted 30/12/2009 17:29 Fellow Group: Forum Members Last Login: Today @ 15:12 Posts: 363, Visits: 1,513 I think your Army memories are coming back Alan. Roy L."SELUME PROFERRE" Post #16853 lauderdalelauderdale Posted 30/12/2009 17:40 Excellent Master Group: Forum Members Last Login: 04/07/2010 12:56 Posts: 2,238, Visits: 4,269 I was always told that in Bangkok and Phuket if the person looks really pretty, has a nice face and figure and comes on strong to you then they are more likely to be a "ladyboy" than a biological female. 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The Council of the Order of the Grand Orient de France (GODF) decided to defer to the next annual convent (general assembly) the new vote on the mixing of the lodges [by sex], according to the Grand Master, Pierre Lambicchi. The vote of the preceding convent of the Masonic obedience, which had refused the mixing of the lodges last September 4, was annulled by the Chamber of Justice of the Grand Orient de France because of a question of form. The heading of the question had been modified without the agreement of the "Committee of Proposals and Regulations."The convent, which brought together the delegates of the 1,200 lodges of the GODF, voted 56% against the mixing of the lodges. The question was whether to allow lodges the freedom to initiate women or to affiliate "sisters" of other obediences. Two lodges appealed to the Supreme Chamber of Masonic Justice and the vote of the convent was annulled. The Council of the Order on Sunday met to decide whether it was necessary to convene an extraordinary convent or to wait for the "normal" convent next September to revote on the mixing of the lodges.The question of the mixing of the lodges has been posed for several years. Two years ago, the majority of the representatives of the lodges decided not to bring the issue to a vote; a year ago, they decided to let the lodges reflect on the issue for a year and to vote in 2009. And at the last convent, the vote was 56% against mixing.The preceding Grand Master, Jean-Michel Quillardet, was openly favorable to mixing. The present Grand Master, Pierre Lambicchi, thinks that the majority of lodges are opposed to mixing, and advocates rather for a federation of obediences joining together the masculine, feminine and mixed branches.
I am still slightly puzzled as to the exact effect of the Legal Ruling posted , but I am not a Lawyer. I await the outcome of this matter with great interest.
It is very puzzling isn't it Brother. They accept Atheists though but not women, very interesting. I call it Obscure Landmarks.
Accept me as a visitor is fine by me.
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Amethyst Lodge No. 2, Orient of Tulsa, Oklahoma and Isis Lodge No. 3, Orient of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma...A.F.H.R.
Different ballpark Bro:. TJ.
In France there is such a thing as laicite - a term difficult to translate, but akin to secularism underpinned by constitutional separation of state and church. In France, one has absolute freedom of conscience, i.e. you can believe (or not) whatever you want (or don't); just practise it in private.
It would be completely inappropriate to make disclosure of one's beliefs obligatory.
Of course, one's gender is rather, erm, obvious. In most cases.
S&F,
"SELUME PROFERRE"
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