Masonic Forum Home Search Members Calendar Who's On Welcome Guest ( Login | Register ) Recent PostsRecent Posts Popular TopicsPopular Topics Home » General » General Masonic Discussion » Appointments or Promotions over the years 26 posts, Page 3 of 3«««123 Appointments or Promotions over the years Rate Topic Display Mode Topic Options Author Message lauderdalelauderdale Posted 11/03/2010 08:27 Excellent Master Group: Forum Members Last Login: 04/07/2010 12:56 Posts: 2,238, Visits: 4,269 Perhaps a Collarette or a Breast Jewel, saving of the cost, not inconsiderable these days, of two Aprons (Dress and Undress) and Collars. That way all would wear the Pale Blue Apron and thus bring back the idea of being On the Level. Post #19469 doowmdoowm Posted 13/03/2010 14:06 Apprentice Group: Forum Members Last Login: 06/06/2010 22:47 Posts: 6, Visits: 55 David As one who is about to be appointed ProvSGD, I must admit that I was both surprised and very proud to be offered this honour.The bits and pieces that I do for My Lodge, the Hall and other things I have done and do, I do because I am able to and enjoy. I certainly don't do them in the hope of reward, but is nice to be appreciatedOne thing I would point though, is the number of PGO's is related to the number of Lodges in a Province or District not the number of members. So in the numbers quoted in the first post, 65 Lodges /37 PGO's against 328 Lodges/82 PGO's.... But anything can proved or argued with numbers and statistics Mike WoodDeputy Chairman TLC AppealTrinity Lodge 1734St. Katherines Chapter 5376 Post #19606 chestnutchestnut Posted 13/03/2010 18:59 Master Group: Forum Members Last Login: Today @ 10:20 Posts: 652, Visits: 2,093 Hi Mike, I am aware of the work you do and you deserve the honour. I also know you did not court it. Frankly in my eyes the only rank worth having is an active rank. Past ranks are survival ranks. I understand the level of PGO to Lodges. The arguement is over the percentage of appointments to the level of members which has reduced dramatically over the years. Thus giving a very top heavy Province. David Post #19611 3GP4413GP441 Posted 14/03/2010 08:12 Journeyman Group: Forum Members Last Login: 22/07/2010 06:11 Posts: 181, Visits: 885 It seems to me the issue here isn't really who gets a gong but how it is perceived. Really, if you believe that a pale blue apron is fine, well go on and wear it with pride. If another Bro. is proud of his past rank, let him enjoy it. The real issue which crops up on this forum under this topic heading is those who think that a bit of gold braid entitles them to unbrotherly conduct due to perceived superiority in rank. That should not be tolerated, but admonished with kindness. I wear my Past Prov rank with pride and it keeps me connected with my Mother province. If a Bro. cannot bring himself to accept a promotion well that is his decision and OK with me, unless he uses a form of 'inverted snobbery' to make me feel bad about my rank. It can appear to work both ways, and sometimes in the course of discussions regarding Prov. rank on here it can appear that those who have rejected promotion or choose not to wear their dark blue are as proud of their choice as those who have been appointed to a Prov rank. As has been alluded to in previous posts, as long as we keep the colour of our aprons in perspective and remember that we are all brothers and that the white part of it is the most important, then the fact that someone has an apron covered in 'fruit salad' or just a plain lambskin is actually irrelevant. (Actually, it is the exclusivity of those red Steward aprons that really gets to me tho' ) S&F Jon West PM 1069/441 UGLE MEZ 441 SGCE 180 /Herald 112 A&ASR Post #19625 chestnutchestnut Posted 14/03/2010 08:45 Master Group: Forum Members Last Login: Today @ 10:20 Posts: 652, Visits: 2,093 Jon what you say is correct and nobody should begrudge or belittle those who have or have not any title. The point is being lost again its not the fcat that they are given its the quantity that is given. If the percentages were moved back to those of even 50 years ago then it would be rarer, and more of an honour. Today I feel that it has become devalued. David Post #19626 3GP4413GP441 Posted 14/03/2010 11:47 Journeyman Group: Forum Members Last Login: 22/07/2010 06:11 Posts: 181, Visits: 885 chestnut (14/03/2010)Jon what you say is correct and nobody should begrudge or belittle those who have or have not any title. The point is being lost again its not the fcat that they are given its the quantity that is given. If the percentages were moved back to those of even 50 years ago then it would be rarer, and more of an honour. Today I feel that it has become devalued. Hmmm, I understand what you mean. It is a bit like wanting 50% of school leavers to get degrees, it devalues them in a similar way. Perhaps London does have the right method to do things. 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As one who is about to be appointed ProvSGD, I must admit that I was both surprised and very proud to be offered this honour.
The bits and pieces that I do for My Lodge, the Hall and other things I have done and do, I do because I am able to and enjoy. I certainly don't do them in the hope of reward, but is nice to be appreciated
One thing I would point though, is the number of PGO's is related to the number of Lodges in a Province or District not the number of members. So in the numbers quoted in the first post, 65 Lodges /37 PGO's against 328 Lodges/82 PGO's.... But anything can proved or argued with numbers and statistics
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