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M Perrott	Posted 02/06/2009 10:26:02
Fellow Group: Forum Member Last Login: 21/12/2011 00:19:49 Posts: 343, Visits: 2,530	Roy V (02/06/2009) "handy billy"? It's all about ropes and (wooly) pullies (it gets cold at sea ;) ) on boats. And Mark, don't get the wrong idea about Wolfy - he's only a sailor on pleasure boats, not the Ark Royal. Thanks Roy (how are you btw), I had guessed that. I actually said I hoped a RN person had brought it up as it is a military term, no implication that Wolfy was a matelot. Merchant fleet is just as essential to our shores, and good luck to all that sail in it !
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Roy V	Posted 02/06/2009 10:37:17
Master Group: Forum Member Last Login: 17/01/2012 16:58:34 Posts: 778, Visits: 1,436	M Perrott (02/06/2009) [quote][b] Merchant fleet is just as essential to our shores, and good luck to all that sail in it ! Not so essential as a super-tanker full of oil, or Japanese cars, but over-rich American blue-rinses in his case, I believe. But still useful for bringing in hard currency (if you can call the $ that at the moment). Wolfy started his boating before, aft and up the mast in Tall Ships, for which I applaud him - I get vertigo standing on a chair - Installation was not easy! PM 5770 Middlesex
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wolfy	Posted 02/06/2009 12:35:45
Journeyman Group: Forum Member Last Login: 25/07/2011 09:46:54 Posts: 181, Visits: 376	haha thanks Roy, My Cadetship was on 36,000 tonne ro-ro ships in truth! then i went onto the square riggeres as a volunteer 3rd officer to help under privilaged youths how to sail the atlantic! lol then i was Mate on escourt tugs based out of the Firth of Forth and the Thames, and now i have the pleasure of "driving" the general british (usually) public on 69,000 tonnes of sea going splendour! and lets not forget what the QE2 added to certain efforts ;) and i work in the same company (umbrella company) so there we go, wolfy's sea going history! lol S+F James K U.G.L.E Stella Maris 7279 MMM, OSM
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sojourner	Posted 02/06/2009 13:27:58
Past Master Group: Forum Member Last Login: Yesterday @ 21:29:38 Posts: 868, Visits: 7,125	I think the article: - The Masonic Goat THE SHORT TALK BULLETIN The Masonic Service Association of the United States VOL. 14 NOVEMBER 1936 NO. 11 which is shown via a link on Page 1 (second posting by Vintage Malt) pretty much covers it. :hehe: Roy L. "SELUME PROFERRE"
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Keith	Posted 03/06/2009 00:46:04
Master Group: Forum Member Last Login: 29/01/2012 04:48:25 Posts: 412, Visits: 1,041	However, to return to the goat, there are various possible explanations. THere have been pub signs of the Goat and Compasses, a corruption of "God encompasseth us". Many old Lodgs met in pubs and the association of Masonry with compasses and then with goats is easy to follow. Also, and I ain't kidding (excuse the pun) many early Kiwi Lodges had their Lodgerooms in a small paddock which required mowing to control the grass growth. Some Lodges used a goat or two as biological lawnmowers. Goats are hardy animals and require relatively little care. Anyway, people could speculate on possible alternative reasons for the goats' presence. And, as has already been mentioned, where a Lewis is a means whereby a heavy stone can be lifted off its base , a Goat is a means whereby the stone can be moved horizontally to a different location Keith PM. Waimarino 175 Kaimanawa 426 Waikato Lodge of Research 445 Taupo, New Zealand
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Roy V	Posted 03/06/2009 08:35:21
Master Group: Forum Member Last Login: 17/01/2012 16:58:34 Posts: 778, Visits: 1,436	wolfy (02/06/2009) haha thanks Roy, My Cadetship was on 36,000 tonne ro-ro ships in truth! then i went onto the square riggeres as a volunteer 3rd officer to help under privilaged youths how to sail the atlantic! lol then i was Mate on escourt tugs based out of the Firth of Forth and the Thames, and now i have the pleasure of "driving" the general british (usually) public on 69,000 tonnes of sea going splendour! and lets not forget what the QE2 added to certain efforts ;) and i work in the same company (umbrella company) so there we go, wolfy's sea going history! lol Left hand down a bit! PM 5770 Middlesex
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wolfy	Posted 03/06/2009 12:24:56
Journeyman Group: Forum Member Last Login: 25/07/2011 09:46:54 Posts: 181, Visits: 376	your rotten you are!;) S+F James K U.G.L.E Stella Maris 7279 MMM, OSM
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M Perrott	Posted 04/06/2009 11:15:19
Fellow Group: Forum Member Last Login: 21/12/2011 00:19:49 Posts: 343, Visits: 2,530	wolfy (03/06/2009) your rotten you are!;) What about his rotten? Is it illegally parked?
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eastbeast	Posted 04/06/2009 11:48:05
Journeyman Group: Forum Member Last Login: 02/01/2012 13:21:38 Posts: 117, Visits: 594	At the risk of sending the thread seriously off topic.....All this Maritime talk is enough to make a chap want to splice the mizzen to the poop (deck) if it doesn't drive him up the bulkhead first. __________________________________________ U.G.L.E. Lodge of Perseverance 213 Norfolk. (An Atholl Lodge) Chapter of Perseverance 213 Norwich Conclave 478 OSM I've seen Mike's Balls.....
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Russell Holland	Posted 04/06/2009 23:31:59
Fellow Group: Forum Member Last Login: 11/12/2011 21:12:13 Posts: 334, Visits: 2,812	The nearest I have come to the goat is discovering that the Kenites thought that their god (Tubal Cain) was goat-footed
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